under benedict's law, the penalty will be excommunication. that applies to cardinals down to the house maids and other assistants who look after them during the conclave. he also lets the so-called princes of the church gather in conclave previously than the previously mandated 15 days after the end of the papacy. there's still no clear idea as to when that will actually be because by both tradition and law, the cardinals are forbidden to talk about it and openly at least until one day after benedict leaves office. in the meantime they're meeting congregations to discuss what issue they think are most important for the new papacy. and high on that agenda we know will be the sexual abuse case. charlie, nor agaleanora, gayle? >>> the ceo of macy's said he was blind sided by martha stewart's decision to sell goods at jcpenney stores. yesterday the company insisted it has an exclusive deal with stewart. he said in court "i was completely shocked and blown away from what she was saying to me. it was so far from anything i could imagine." lundgren